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2.56 µm with f/1.95 gathers less light than 2.4 µm with f/1.8!

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Rkm, 1 hour agoWas all that hype just for the fancy crop mode? 😐Maybe. I don’t know much about focal lengths but they still focused on it during the presentation

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Aierlan, 4 hours agoThey focused on that in the presentation with samples from each of the focal lengths. Guess…MoreWas all that hype just for the fancy crop mode? 😐

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The S30 Pro is a waste of R&D money.
No advantage over motorola from 2021 with the same SoC.

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All that and motorola didn’t bother to use 1G+6P instead of 7P.
😒

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MrAndreas, 5 hours agoI’ve been saying this and the following other reasons for years… a) The actua… moreI mostly agree. Curved screens also increase the cost a bit. Unfortunately, there are no full-fledged flagships without curved displays from any of the leading Chinese manufacturers. I think choice is key. I wish I had the option of a flat screen with a flagship camera setup from Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Honor or Motorola but I don’t think that option exists (it was 2-3 years ago but more I think)

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Aierlan, 4 hours agoThey focused on that in the presentation with samples from each of the focal lengths. Guess…MoreJeez, it’s such a bruh moment..

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Anonymous, 4 hours agoI didn’t say high end. The 50MP mode here is same as the 50MP mode of GN1/GN2/766. T… moreYour previous comment in which you said these are all “pure software tricks” implies the opposite, although I agree with your particular comment, so thanks for your clarification.

That said, even when we’re talking about a Quad Bayer sensor – it’s got 50MP, all those pixels are read, and the output is also 50MP in resolution – there’s not much software in it, actually the only part where some extra processing is involved in the converting/remashing part of the array, but even that is done on the sensor itself. You don’t need to perform any additional “software tricks” if you *just* want to shoot a 50MP RAW image out of it.

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Rkm, 5 hours agoNo mention of the 35, 50 and 85 mm focal lengths. Is it even there?They focused on that in the presentation with samples from each of the focal lengths. I guess it’s just software based on most focal lengths

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Samath N8 808 owner, 4 hours agoDear industry, please get a decent replacement from LG for the future. True high-quality sound is g… moreLG dual screen based on older devices like Zte Axon M (2018) and Sony Tablet P (2012)?

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Nick Tegrataker, 5 hours ago“The sensor is supposed to operate at 12.5 MP” and “The other option is pure software for… moreI didn’t say high end. The 50MP mode here is same as the 50MP mode of GN1/GN2/766.

There are 16 pixels with the same color filter together. Even if the software should read 4 as 1, you still have “4 large pixels” with the same color filter side by side.
The 16-1 emulates the Bayer CFA hardware, not the 50 MP.

Repeat in front of the mirror 100x:

“The pixels are fixed on the sensor. They don’t move to form another CFA configuration as I and others here believe.”

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Dear industry,
Please get a decent LG replacement for the future. True high-quality sound is gone, dual screens are gone, hardware innovation is totally gone.
Only megapixels, weight, size and load speeds increase.
What are we going to buy for our next phone? The future looks bleak.

I like the general direction of this phone, but it’s still missing some things that we like.

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Rkm, 5 hours agoNo mention of the 35, 50 and 85 mm focal lengths. Is it even there?Is not it? What was this teaser even about?

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Smartphone sensors are getting bigger fast, it’s time for us to (effectively) move away from 12MP sensors like this 200MP BS “Tetra²pixel” and increase the resolution to 16-25MP while keeping the Quad Bayer/Tetracell structure.

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No mention of the 35, 50 and 85 mm focal lengths. Is it even there?

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Anonymous, 5 hours agoPeople need to stop with the “bin for low light”. The camera will not tilt … more“The sensor is supposed to operate at 12.5MP” and “The other option is purely software tricks” imply that the sensor only outputs 12.5MP images and upscales them to 50MP if necessary, which is completely false. Pixels are grouped in different ways depending on whether you’re using 12.5MP or 50MP mode (as well as 200MP but I don’t think Motorola will allow you to shoot at that resolution).

A 50MP Quad Bayer RAW is converted to a 50MP Bayer RAW via on-sensor signal conversion, and while this will lead to more false colors and shady detail at 100% magnification, it will still produce finer detail than a regular 12.5MP image Does.

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Which is best for the camera?
Moto g32 or g 52 which model?

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Marco M, 5 hours ago200MP @ 0.64µm will seem weak in almost all natural conditions. One thing is the little pix…MorePeople need to stop with the “bin for low light”.

The camera will not switch between 200, 50 and 12.5 MP depending on ambient light.
The sensor is said to operate at 12.5 MP.
The other option is purely software tricks.

talha5007, 6 hours agolook at those light reflections from both sides, that’s why curved screens are gimmi… moreI’ve been saying this and the following other reasons for years…

a) The curve actually shrinks the directly visible screen area because the curve pixels appear compressed to the viewer, which also distorts what the viewer sees, and that on premium phones with premium screens!

b) Considering that curved screens are used on premium phones with premium cameras, a curved screen does not allow proper framing with said cameras!

Curved screens are the dumbest marketing gimmick ever introduced. Personally, I’d pay extra just for the option of a proper flat-edge display!

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Anonymous, 6 hours agoIf 200MP @ F1.6 the image will not be so sharp. So F2.0 is the sweet spot for 200MP.200MP @ 0.64µm will seem weak in almost all natural conditions. One thing is the tiny pixels combined with a small aperture trying to capture enough light not to be a noisy mess, coated in oil paint by software to compensate, another is the tiny lens system to try to deliver anywhere near sharpness for even 20MP resolution, let alone 200.

I’ll guess and say that only the 12.5 MP mode will be worth using 99% of the time, minimum.

I don’t mind high MP count sensors and binning, but it must actually have an advantage and it just doesn’t. 50MP sensors bunched to 12.5MP for low light are the best bet, assuming the sensor is large enough.

The 1/1.22″ sensor size is perfectly fine, if only it was a [email protected]µm sensor instead, still at [email protected]µm for low light.

I look forward to when Samsung downsizes the 0.64 and 0.7µm pixel-based sensors and starts focusing on the bigger ones.

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